Tuesday, November 29, 2005

A Hindustan Times exclusive interview with CEO

TCS has a market cap of over $16.5 billion and yet it is acquiring small companies of less than $50 million. Where do these acquisitions fit into your global delivery model?

We are doing this by design. The acquisitions are meant to scale up the global delivery model. Size is not important. The important aspect for an acquisition is what value addition does it bring to the table in terms of domain knowledge, geography or its clientele. We have categorized six verticals or bubbles in TCS — IT services, business process outsourcing (BPO), engineering and industrial solutions, package enabled solutions, consulting and infrastructure services.

Going forward, one has to separate between voice and transaction based services which is why we divested from voice (Intelenet) before the IPO. Using technologically intensive modules, the future is in platform based, domain based, transformational based and transactional based services. The recent multimillion dollar with the Pearl Group is to achieve this end. Pearl has 13 platforms which is a most inefficient way of operating. We will rationalize their systems and create a single platform and take a thousand plus of their people and bring them into our fold. The Pearl Group has four million of the closed books in the insurance and pensions space, worldwide, there are 75 million of these available.

The recent Joint Venture (JV) with SBI and the acquisition of FNS will kick start our product space foray. The deal in Chile is a bolt onto the Pearl deal. It gives us a toehold in the life and pension area and credit cards space in South America.

You mentioned that you are adding 1,100 personnel from Pearl Group, where is TCS headed in terms of employee numbers?

The CMC absorption means an addition of 3,300 employees, the integration of Tata Infotech another 3,200, while FNS has seen us add 190 and the Chile operation will add 1,200 people. This means that very quickly we have added close to 8,000 people and this we have done hitting the road running.

We have seen CMC and Tata Infotech adding mass to TCS in different ways through a collaborative model and a merger, what does it mean for the Tata group?

We are going to leverage Tata group companies' strengths to bring comprehensive solutions for our global customers at competitive prices. In addition, we are in the process of amalgamating all the different platforms into one, which will help us in offering best of breed and best in class services at a comparable price.

TCS is aggressively exploring opportunities in the remote network and infrastructure management domain. For this we are going to use the bandwidth of VSNL or Tyco or Teleglobe. Similarly we are going to use the servers of one of the companies. Depending upon the requirements of global customers, the utilities of these services will help us in bringing down the cost. While at the same time increase the efficiencies and dependability as well as quality of services.

In fact, TCS has put in a lot of effort to bring seamless synergies with various vendors and other group companies like Tata Technologies, Tata Elxsi and others. It is a collaborative model where all the companies will benefit. Our go to market strategy incorporates leveraging all our assets all over the world.

What is the differentiator or USP for TCS? Is it price competitiveness?

Let me make it clear that the labor arbitrage model is history. Indian companies are providing end to end solutions. We are not merely a low cost hub, we are much more starting with research and development to service delivery to product delivery. We compete on the global canvas not because of price alone. Though price is an important ingredient, it is not the sole criteria. There are a host of other reasons that goes in favor of India like credibility of delivery on or before time, offering a comprehensive solution that helps these companies in achieving higher productivity.

Since a reasonable number of Indian IT firms has either crossed the billion dollar mark or is poised to do so, they are being viewed as more credible with long-term longevity. That helps us in partnering with some of the global leaders even for critical operations. Each Indian tech company will evolve in its own way - some will be product facing, some engineering, some BPO facing — we have to make sure that depth and breadth of IT is covered by us.

What about merger with other group firms?

No more mergers. The buck stops here. Basically it is the issue of synergies. All the group companies in the technology space have their own space. It is better to have a collaborative model than to go in for a merger.

Given the kind of growth rate you have registered in the recent past, where do you see TCS in the next three to five years in terms of revenues?

It is difficult to give you a number. But our aspiration is to double the turnover every three years through organic growth. While doing so we would also like to ensure our margins should increase or at least remain protected. In fact each of the six bubbles should give us revenues of half a billion dollars in the next three to five years.

Last year, when TCS was listed on the Indian bourses, we were told that TCS would be listed on the US bourses after one year. When is this going to he happening?

We have planned to list overseas, but as of now there is no dialogue. It is difficult to hazard a guess on a timeline. We will be deliberating on this in our board and let you know.

But what is the purpose of an overseas listing?
Let me clarify that an overseas listing would not be for the purpose of raising funds. TCS is a global company. The intent of listing on the overseas market is to create visibility in that local market, which in turn helps in building new businesses. Secondly, it helps the company in hiring and retaining locals as it is easier to give Employee Stock Options (ESOP) to them once you are listed there.
Source: Hindustan Times 29 Nov 2005
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